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FilthyCasual
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>it's a loli
And nothing of value was lost. |
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Casval Rem Deikun
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Yeah, I hate seeing this. The the creator intended something to be a certain way, it should be left alone. If people don't like it, then then too bad. Companies should really stand up more to censorship, even if it costs them money. The more and more it's allowed the worse it's going to become in the long for things. I'm not a fan of loli stuff but I definitely hate seeing things, especially in art, needing to be altered.
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Niyari
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Looked up the censor and original comparison. Seems kind of insulting tbh. It's such a tame illustration by anime standards
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Shadow Revolution
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Unfortunately the fans are not so tame, given the long history of constantly having any questionable content being censored and edited out especially in the last few years where IPs like Senran Kagura simply is no longer viable because it means removing most of the risque content that defined the IP. A problem with Blue Archive is the fact the game is not subtle about the relationship your main character has with the girls and how they sometimes have romantic thoughts about you since the setting has only girls, robots and dogs/cats who are humans in an Academy City setting. Arisu for instance is popular with the fanbase because she caters to a lot of the fetishes, there are other characters in BA that also has a following, but the loli designs unfortunately also draws in more problematic fans who go from franchise to franchise for a game that lets them indulge in the memes and community behind it. This arc was very much a test for Nexon if they want to retain the fans or not since the game development club's cast is made up wholly of underdeveloped first years. Given their decision, Nexon is realizing they are more trouble than they are worth and would risk the game having a EoS rather than keeping the content and causing the fanbase. And now the former fans using their displeasure to destroy the popularity of the game along with leaving the game altogether. spoiler[They don't want to wait three months before the game undergoes a second crucible as there will be a girl with a school swimsuit design and another who accidentally catches her dinner in a suggestive situation.] |
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FunkyDude88
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Reminds me of all the changes being done to Lost Ark in the west.
The main audience for gacha games are the people willing to drop bank on sexualized waifus and husbandos. Censoring that stuff seems counter-intuitive. |
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Shadow Revolution
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The community for BA had it's problems with a very vocal group who is in this for the loli designs and wouldn't stop spouting memes to the detriment of the community which was part of the reason this outrage was so fierce that it may just cause a EoS |
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EleutheroMaster
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I'd cancel my account if I were you.
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Bisuketto
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Been watching this as it developed. Has been interesting.
Contrary to those who seem to be unhealthily focusing on Aris herself and apparently attributing reasons to others which is not in the reason people have an issue with the censorship. The main points I have seen: --Nexon is well known and has a reputation (earned or unearned: you decide). --They decided to have a PR interview as an olive branch and assure people, they have changed, that the illustrations and artwork is a core of the game, they understand that, and as such won't be making any changes. The game is in good hands. --Game launched, appeared to be going well. --Nexon edits the scene. --Consumers feel betrayed and lied to (rightfully so). --Silence from Nexon for Days --Anger from past slights bubble up (Nexon is doing it again). --Apology letter drops (which seems to cause more of a ruckus as they admit to future censoring occurring and it wouldn't be their fault). --Chargebacks begin to occur --Community fight amongst themselves. From the above run down, the scene in question has little to do or about "hur hur naked little girls". It is about Nexon's past behavior, and their tendency to cut and run when things get difficult. And since now there is verified charge backs, people are rightfully afraid of the long term health (of a game just out of its first month)--which isn't a great place to be in. And the name calling of those pointing out why this is a bad thing as pedos is just causing polarization and hurting the game. And one side can't seem to understand that if those actually paying leave, the game will end. It's a pretty bad situation. Will the game end immediately, is the sky falling? No. Is the community fractured and the game wounded? Yes. And for those who know about prior history, that is a VERY bad spot to be for any Nexon property. |
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Rogural
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However well-intended it may have been, promising the community you weren't going to censor or change anything when you couldn't keep that promise was probably not the wisest thing to do.
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Mewmaster300
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Just adding on that the trailer was also censored.
NA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chh_rhWqvAA&t=15s JP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE1ePjq5ZSs&t=15s |
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sirdano1
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This could have all been avoided if they just offered an uncensored app through their own website instead of forcing everyone to go through the prudes at google play or the app store.
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Nate148
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1. This has has very little to do with nexon as any publisher in this place would have the same issues
2. This in the end is the right call and the only way forward without slipping off 3. The og art should not have been made |
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monsieurb1982
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First : The reason why I'm against censorship
I'm not into mobile games, dating sims harem games (tried Utawarerumono, and droped it, too bored to continue even if I LOVE medieval fantasy), loli sexualization or anything like that, but I'm against censorship. I think that yes, there are people out there who like loli content and rage against this particular issue, and they don't help themselves. But there are also people who don't like nude lolis at all, but are against this censorship because they see the big picture. Years ago, the fight was against hentai content with child characters. After that, it was against hentai with any character below 18, no matter how similar the design was to a lot of over 18 characters. In a lot of countries, that kind of hentai content don't exists anymore in the market. Now, the fight is against nude non hentai images. Or did the bikini fight already started somehow? From what I understand, that fight will never stop. When banning the nudes will be the norm and all people will be used to that, do you really beleive that will stop here magically? Look how it is in a lot of countries, middle east, Russia or China for example. You know, the two third of the world. It's just a matter of time if we go down on that path. And that's why we must be against censorship. When the war will be at our door, it will be too late. That's how it began everywhere... So yeah, I'm against censorship. Not because of that particular issue or because I care about that drawing I will anyway never see, but because where it can lead. It's a little like people who are against death penality. It's not because they care deeply about a particular case of a mass murderer, but just because they know where it will eventually lead... Second : the people who are attracted to loli nudes It's very strange, I heard a lot of people they should ban loli nude content. That's their opinion, but as for me, I would prefer to make people free to choose what they want. I would probably never buy that game, but for an anime, personnaly - like Clannad - I would 100% choose the all age version over the lewd one. But I would never force my choice on anyone. So, WHY some people want so much force their own choice on others? A lot of people in the past discussions about this topic were saying that naked drawing can transform people into pedos. And I find it disturbing... 1. I think that if you're not attracted to that kind of content, it doesn't matter how much you see that, you will never be attracted by that. I'm 100% sure of that, without any doubt (proof : all the gay therapies). 2. If you "become" attracted by that content, then you were already attracted by that in the first place, but just didn't know you had it into you. I'm also 100% sure of that. 3. People who ask to ban that content because they want to prevent other people to become pedos are basically saying that the only thing that prevent them to become pedos is the ban of this content. Without that, they also could (like everyone in their mind) become pedos. 4. If they think that they could become pedos watching nudes drawing, they already are attracted to loli content, and are using this ban to keep them to realize that. If not, they are affaid and should not be afraid at all. So yeah, maybe you're right that there are people making a fuss about this change that are sexually attracted by lolis. It's sure, even if there are also people who are not attracted to lolis among the ones who are opposed to censorship. But among the ones who are against that kind of content, when someone say that content can transform anyone into pedos, what are they saying about themselves to "the whole internet" ? Last edited by monsieurb1982 on Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:17 am; edited 2 times in total |
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AmpersandsUnited
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This is generally why I only play JP versions of games these days. Stuff like this is getting a lot more common in America, plus global versions of gacha games tend to die a lot quicker than the JP versions.
As always, people are fine with censorship until it happens to stuff they like. Removing things under the guise of "offensive content" is fine and dandy until we see people getting upset over things like the recent Eternals controversies. "Offensive content" is determined by the people in charge, after all. |
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RockSplash
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I was going to go with mostly everyone else.in this board and rave about censorship, but then I actually reaearched the game. Yeah, it's rated T. Most T games.in the US have no nudity or extremely little amounts. The closest thing is naked terra in Dissidia, and they never really show anything as the camera obscures things. However, this seems in line with a T rated game.
I don't like censorship at all, but this just makes me think that having this game be rated T was a bad idea. In comparison, fate is also rated T, but has the added partial nudity block. This makes thomgs seem weird, since loli characters run around in that.game, but there is never any actual nudity, so I guess that is the line. I don't like this censorship, but I also feel that some people really don't understand the difference between censorship and localization. But then again, that itself is a dirty word that seems like very.little people really understand either. |
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