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NEWS: Kadokawa Aims to Establish More Wholly-Owned Anime Studios


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TheSleepyMonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:29 pm Reply with quote
Things like this give the impression that independent studios are gonna get somewhat screwed in the future. With big production companies like Aniplex and Toho also having their own studios, seems like they'll have less opportunity to get work.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:54 pm Reply with quote
Kadokawa aiming to release more seasons for a given title makes sense, especially when LN adaptations are starting to aim for being less rushed. Covering only one or two LNs per cour is becoming more common. There's nothing wrong with three LN per cour adaptations, especially when they are expertly streamlined to work with the trimmed out fat, but the general expectation nowadays is for more faithful and throrough adaptations.
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el_morris



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:11 pm Reply with quote
What about the animators? There's too many studios and a shortage of staff working in the industry, and with the current conditions less people gets in and stays, what are they gonna do to retain the talent?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:47 am Reply with quote
encrypted12345 wrote:
Kadokawa aiming to release more seasons for a given title makes sense, especially when LN adaptations are starting to aim for being less rushed. Covering only one or two LNs per cour is becoming more common. There's nothing wrong with three LN per cour adaptations, especially when they are expertly streamlined to work with the trimmed out fat, but the general expectation nowadays is for more faithful and throrough adaptations.

For most but the more popular properties the point of the anime is simply to advertise the source material, and I don't see Kadokawa changing that formula as it would just result in a net loss.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:58 am Reply with quote
Engi is like the middle child while Kinema Citrus is the oldest. The quality between them is staggering.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:08 am Reply with quote
Blanchimont wrote:
encrypted12345 wrote:
Kadokawa aiming to release more seasons for a given title makes sense, especially when LN adaptations are starting to aim for being less rushed. Covering only one or two LNs per cour is becoming more common. There's nothing wrong with three LN per cour adaptations, especially when they are expertly streamlined to work with the trimmed out fat, but the general expectation nowadays is for more faithful and throrough adaptations.

For most but the more popular properties the point of the anime is simply to advertise the source material, and I don't see Kadokawa changing that formula as it would just result in a net loss.


Love it when people are still spouting decades-old debunked talking points about the anime industry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KkMD3pEaio
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impognagrift



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:42 am Reply with quote
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Did you miss the part where Kadokawa is literally the publisher of the IPs getting adapted? What do you think their stake in an adaptation being made is?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:53 am Reply with quote
Quantity does not not necessarily mean quality. TBH, I would not mind if each season got a total 15-20 new anime titles, excludes the porn ones, so that the animators could get some more sleep.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:08 am Reply with quote
@Kadmos1

Unemployed people don't usually sleep that well.

If you reduced the number of new shows each season to that extent it would result in the failure of the most poorly managed studios. There would be mass firing of "excess" animators. Animators who were still employed would have to work even harder to prove that they are worthy of having a job. Laid off experienced animators would push newbies out of their jobs and you would end up with an aging pool of animators.

Animators were overworked long before there was a shortage. Studios overwork and underpay animators not because there is a shortage of animators but because the studio has a shortage of money to pay animators with. That would not change with less shows.


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Ermat_46



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:10 am Reply with quote
impognagrift wrote:
Did you miss the part where Kadokawa is literally the publisher of the IPs getting adapted? What do you think their stake in an adaptation being made is?


Love it when people ignore that Kadokawa has recently made a handful of original IPs like Overtake, Deca-Dence, High Card, etc.
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impognagrift



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:22 am Reply with quote
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How is this even relevant? No one is talking about original IPs, or anime in general. From the start of the quote, this was a discussion about adaptations.

Making a couple original IPs hasn't stopped them from pushing for a gazillion low effort isekai adaptations every season.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:57 am Reply with quote
Kadmos1 wrote:
Quantity does not not necessarily mean quality. TBH, I would not mind if each season got a total 15-20 new anime titles, excludes the porn ones, so that the animators could get some more sleep.


Also note that they don't seem to be increasing quantity, but rather taking in more work themselves as opposed to contracting out to other studios. I don't know how it balances out money-wise, but I assume it's an expensive endeavor that will save them more money in the long run, which can hopefully boost animator salary, and likely show quality, if they manage it well. At least, one can hope.
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Avec ou Nous



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:39 am Reply with quote
I suppose the industry is doing pretty well if companies are still expanding.

Kadmos1 wrote:
Quantity does not not necessarily mean quality. TBH, I would not mind if each season got a total 15-20 new anime titles, excludes the porn ones, so that the animators could get some more sleep.


Lack of quantity does not guarantee quality either.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:23 am Reply with quote
Hopefully these studios are more Kinema Citrus than Engi.
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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:54 am Reply with quote
impognagrift wrote:
Did you miss the part where Kadokawa is literally the publisher of the IPs getting adapted?


Disney owns Marvel, but that doesn't mean they're producing the MCU to sell comics.

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What do you think their stake in an adaptation being made is?


To exploit their intellectual property by creating multimedia franchises that can be packaged around the world, far beyond the readership of the original light novel or manga.
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